Her fra dr. Mark Waldrep, en som søker objektivitet og sannhet.
Han laget nylig et blogginnlegg som har skapt litt trøbbel for han: High-End Mischief — Again! | Real HD-Audio
https://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/566i-qm2m6--hayzc-qy5nph8
Å offentlig kommentere demoer er ikke alltid bra.
Han har også for et par år siden skrevet noe om Nordost demoer og hvordan de "fikser" dem. For dette ble det trusler med søksmål etc. og artiklene trukket fra nettsiden.. Nå tar google kopi av internet så det er å oppdrive.
Personlig har jeg ikke så mye imot denne delen bransjen men reagerer ganske kraftig på tvilsom markedsføring, beskrivelser som ikke finnes og løgn.
Om det fikses i demoer uten å opplyses om det, er det ren svindel.
Har selv deltatt på demoer der det ikke var spor av endringer/forbedringer fra det ene remediet til det andre men når demoholder forteller om de store forbedringene og ser håpefullt ut i salen så nikkes det kraftig ja.
Han laget nylig et blogginnlegg som har skapt litt trøbbel for han: High-End Mischief — Again! | Real HD-Audio
Reaksjonen kom senere. Under er hele den senere korrespondansen gjengitt.I loaded the audio into Adobe Audition and carefully edited each music section to identical lengths. Then I measured the amplitude and plotted the spectra of each. As if by magic, the IEC power cord measured 2.5 dB SPL lower than the others. The most expensive cable — the Nordost Odin 2 — was louder by a substantial amount than the Dragon and Thunder cables the competitors provided. When I asked the other person measuring the SPL in the room, he concurred with me. “I saw about 2 dB difference,” he whispered. I found it curious that the presenter had to kneel down in front of the rig each time after the cables had been switched. Maybe he was adjusting the level of the preamplifier, I can’t say for sure. But I can say with certainly that power cords do not cause a 2-3 dB increase in amplitude and we don’t want them to! The role of power cords is to deliver a raw 120 volts/60 Hz current to a power supply, which cleans, converts, and supplies the needed low DC voltages to the various parts of the component.
https://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/566i-qm2m6--hayzc-qy5nph8
Å offentlig kommentere demoer er ikke alltid bra.
Han har også for et par år siden skrevet noe om Nordost demoer og hvordan de "fikser" dem. For dette ble det trusler med søksmål etc. og artiklene trukket fra nettsiden.. Nå tar google kopi av internet så det er å oppdrive.
Her er artiklene for de som gidder å lese:Following my participation and attendance at the 2016 AXPONA Show, I wrote several posts reporting on a series of power demos held in room 450 by the high-end cable company Nordost of Holliston, MA. This morning I opened a FEDEX letter containing a 7-page “CEASE AND DESIST LETTER”. It describes and quotes from the articles that I posted. Per the DEMAND contained in the document written by attorney Rodney E. Gould, I have removed the original posts.The letter also demands a retraction “prior to the institution of litigation”. This post is that retraction. Some of the statements made in the posts of April 18, 21, and 22 are described as malicious and libelous in the “CEASE AND DESIST LETTER”. Therefore, I wish to retract those statements because they were unsubstantiated.
Mark “Dr. AIX” Waldrep, Ph.D.
In case you missed the comment from Patrick regarding the Nordost power cord demo at the recent AXPONA Show, I’ve copied it below. Patrick was the young man that informed me during the show that he had some serious doubts about the legitimacy of the Nordost power cord demo. He wrote:“I witnessed the power cord demo. Here’s what took place. The Nordost representative only swapped the power cable on the CD player – he did not swap any cables in the preamp. Here was the procedure.
He would turn off the CD player, unplug the power cable and plug in a seemingly better quality cable. As the cables got progressively more expensive, I was sitting in the front row and personally witnessed the representative increase the volume on the preamp from 58 to 61 (the preamp had a digital volume display that was easy to read when you’re sitting 5 feet away). This increase took place when the representative got into the $1000 and up power cords.
There was also another curiosity. The representative would play the same tracks generally for an AB comparison – but he continually seemed to be stumbling through the same CD to find the right track. In the beginning, he was playing Track 1 (again sitting 5 feet away gives you a clear line of sight to the display). Around the same time that he increased the volume on the preamp ever so slightly, I also noticed that the CD player was now on Track 7 – but it was the same exact song.
I can assure you that I did not go into the demo looking for any kind of tricks. This was my first audio show and I was genuinely curious if I could detect a difference. Needless to say, the volume increase was disheartening and I certainly won’t be buying any expensive power cables. I’m glad I learned that lesson early on in life.”
If true, Patrick’s indictment of the Nordost demo would be more fuel to the fire that the high-end cable companies are literally scamming customers by faking their demos. In the interest of getting to the bottom of this issue, I spent over 30 minutes in the Nordost room (Westin Room 450) getting the same demo. In fact, the first demo that the Nordost representative played involved the differences between an expensive power strip when placed on the floor vs. the same power strip elevated by “Sort Kones”, the conical isolation accessories that “enhance” the fidelity of a system by minimizing the vibrations that “create timing errors that smear and distort the music”. The sound of the playback system with the cones was noticeably louder than without. Even the explanation on the Nordost website doesn’t claim that using Sort Kones will increase the amplitude of your system. But when the power strip was elevated, the volume was louder. What was the presenter doing to make it change?
Mye tekst vet det men interessant lesning uansett.Then I sat through the power cord swap out demo. I sat in the front row of their demo room. The presenter swapped out the power cord to the disc player…and only the disc player. He started with a simple IEC power cord, which probably cost about $1.50. He played about 30-45 seconds of a track from the CD. He stopped the player and turned off the power to the unit. He connected a $200 power cord from the Nordost product line. He powered up the CD player, stood in front of the player, and played the same piece of music once again. The sound coming from the speakers was noticeably louder…by about 1-2 dB. The Nordost guy stood to the side and expressed his satisfaction that the change was immediately obvious and repeatable. The volume setting on the front of the amplifier was the same in each case (unlike the change reported by Patrick…I think the presenter knew me and wasn’t going to risk moving the volume knob). This was proof positive that a “better” power cord results in “better” sound.Nordost doesn’t build its power cords to meet certain price points. He explained that the company delineates their products by performance levels. He passed around the transparent power cords so that attendees could see the construction of the cables, the careful windings, the wires that keep the insulation from touching the power leads, and the heft of the $6000 Valhalla 2 cable (don’t you ever wonder about the AC cabling that is inside the walls? Wouldn’t that limit the sound?). The demo continued with successively more expensive cords connecting the CD player to the power strip. And each time the music amplitude associated with the more expensive cable was higher. It was not subtle, however the volume on the preamplifier remained the same (unlike the experience reported by Patrick above). The presenter stated that the expensive power cord “acts like a power conditioner” in removing the artifacts and sonic degradation coming from the wall. Was he saying you don’t need a power conditioner…just a $6000 6-foot power cord?
It was like a magician’s trick. Somehow the presenter was making a change to the system without turning up the volume. There was more output coming from the speakers after the swap. At first I couldn’t figure it out…until Patrick commented on his experience during an earlier demo. The volume on the amplifier didn’t change but the track played on the CD was never repeated more than once. I found that curious. The Nordost presenter would play some music and then swap the cable and replay the same piece of music. But instead of swapping out a new power cord and playing the same track for the third time, he always migrated to another track. This truck me as strange. Why wouldn’t he simply repeat the track a third or fourth time? At one point in the process, he turned to me as he was selecting the track number on the CD player and said, “I’m not sure which track number I played last?”
The disc that he was playing was not a commercial replicated CD. It was custom made for their demo. I believe the disc contained two copies of each track. One that was mastered slightly louder than the other. How else could I account for the difference in volume AND the fact that he didn’t go back and play the same track a third time. There were only two copies of each tune on the disc…not three or four.
I think that explains the increased volume that the audience experienced throughout the demo. The presenter played the same music from a different track…one that was 1-2 dB louder. It wouldn’t be hard to pull this off. In fact, as a former mastering engineer, I could create a custom CD-R that would retain the same track number so no one would be the wiser. I regret not recording the whole session or keeping track of the track number being played. I thought about it before heading upstairs but my wife was using my iPhone to run credit cards at our sales table.
Like the AudioQuest/Home Entertainment YouTube video earlier in the year, the Nordost demo was simply not believable. Small isolation cones and expensive power cords do not cause an audio system to get louder…if they do anything at all. The companies behind these audiophile products don’t even make that claim. There’s nothing more compelling or noticeable during an audio demo than comparing two music tracks with one louder than the other. If a power cord resulted in an increase in the volume of the output signal then using a Valhalla 2 power cord to connect a lamp to a wall socket would cause it to glow more brightly…and that doesn’t happen!
As I wrote this article, I went online and read a number of very positive reviews about Nordost cables…including a number that praised the Valhalla 2 power cords. One of them contained this sentence, “The results were stunning. Even with competing systems in adjacent rooms rattling the walls, it was easy to hear the much lower noise floor and improved soundstaging, texture and decay. Cash’s ragged voice sounded like he’d leaned an inch closer to the microphone, as well as pulled off the foam sock.” When a singer gets an inch closer to the microphone, the output amplitude of the microphone goes up. The reviewer was reporting an increase in volume and thinking the cable was the cause…it wasn’t. There are slick published “Guides to High-End Cables” full of glowing reviews and glossy photos of cables. Reading them will cause your head to spin…complete BS.
Cable vendors and the press that uniformly support them with ridiculous “reviews”, are not being truthful about the relative merits of their products. Overpriced cables…analog and digital…are not worth the money. It’s really that simple.
Personlig har jeg ikke så mye imot denne delen bransjen men reagerer ganske kraftig på tvilsom markedsføring, beskrivelser som ikke finnes og løgn.
Om det fikses i demoer uten å opplyses om det, er det ren svindel.
Har selv deltatt på demoer der det ikke var spor av endringer/forbedringer fra det ene remediet til det andre men når demoholder forteller om de store forbedringene og ser håpefullt ut i salen så nikkes det kraftig ja.