Ja dette har vert den varmeste dagen og det er helt vind stille ute , di 2 andre dagene har det vert litt vind. Men kan ikke klageDet ser ut som du får en finfin dag idag
Særlig, hilsen fra nordnorge???Er vel sesong for shorts og kort bukser på alle snart
Håp da d har hatt to fantastiske sommre etter hverandre, men akkurat nå har det vært mye vær for å si d sånn. Men Dere får kose Dere i godværet, grill litt for oss norboere ogsåFinværet kommer vel til nord Norge også fbh71
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I morgen blir det kaldere og det skal regne litt, så jeg grillet for hele gjengen i dag. I morgen skal jeg kose meg med god musikk på anleggetHåp da d har hatt to fantastiske sommre etter hverandre, men akkurat nå har det vært mye vær for å si d sånn. Men Dere får kose Dere i godværet, grill litt for oss norboere ogsåFinværet kommer vel til nord Norge også fbh71
Mvh Imagine
Disse har jeg selv luktet på. Flotte høyttalere, med veldig gode kritikker. Ligger av og til ute på torget- til hyggelige priserRespons grande br , noen som har disse i bergen ? Er litt nyskjerrig på disse høyttalerene og hvordan di låter.
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Ja er en del som har disse på hfs, og som du sier har fått gode kritikker både hos private og testere verden rundt om. Og derfor jeg la ut klipsch igjen er at jeg kunne ha tenkt meg det i stuen heile veien + jeg er litt nyskjerrig på disse 15 tommerene fra premeium serien. Men når jeg la ut ideen for dama så ble hun litt snurt. Men skjønner henne lovde og holde meg med det jeg har til lytterommet kommer opp.Disse har jeg selv luktet på. Flotte høyttalere, med veldig gode kritikker. Ligger av og til ute på torget- til hyggelige priserRespons grande br , noen som har disse i bergen ? Er litt nyskjerrig på disse høyttalerene og hvordan di låter.
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Shortsen er tatt fram for 1 uke siden her... nord for polarsirkelen..Særlig, hilsen fra nordnorge???Er vel sesong for shorts og kort bukser på alle snart
Etter mange år med klipsch i forskjellige størrelser og typer så må jeg si RP280 var en enorm oppgradering fra tidligere modeller..I klipsch serien når det kommer til rf hva er best , kunne tenkt meg og hørt 260 rpf av klipsch. Vet noen har forskjellige meninger om mk1 og mk 2
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Kom snø i dag og akkurat no så eg lar han ligg i skuffa. Har også prøvd shortsen, men d va i vinter når kona fyra nå så jævlig i ovn, men det gjelder vel ikkeShortsen er tatt fram for 1 uke siden her... nord for polarsirkelen..Særlig, hilsen fra nordnorge???Er vel sesong for shorts og kort bukser på alle snart
Å tøft så du har allerede begynt, kommer etter jeg å skal du se, men tar ting med ro. Men når det først begynner dette så vil det gå fort håper jeg.http://www.hifisentralen.no/forumet/akustikk-og-rom/79051-veien-til-dp-stua.html link
Kom deg vist i forkjøpet med dedikert rom, om du ikke drar ifra på oppløpet Imagine. Jeg er bare i startgropa eller skal vi si byggegropa
Var premeium serien vs mk1 og 2 jeg mente. Så primare går fint i lag med premeium reference serien til klipsch, da er det store forskjeller ute å går. Da må premeium serien til klipsch være mye dempet i det øvre vist primare går med dem, for klipsch kan være hard i toppen vist du miss matsher litt. Hmmmm vi får seEtter mange år med klipsch i forskjellige størrelser og typer så må jeg si RP280 var en enorm oppgradering fra tidligere modeller..I klipsch serien når det kommer til rf hva er best , kunne tenkt meg og hørt 260 rpf av klipsch. Vet noen har forskjellige meninger om mk1 og mk 2
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Men ikke hør verken på meg eller noen andre som mener mk1 og mk2 er bedre enn RP eller visa versa.. dra og lytt selv
Men siden du nå er blitt glad i primare og det den kan gi.. så kan jeg si at RP passer som hand i handske med Primare.. mk1 og mk2 kan bli noe tøffe i toppen
Takk for tipset The Last One, er litt i tenkeboksenBudal Radio har et par RP 260F og 280F med litt avslag i prisen akkurat nå. 280 til 11.000,- f.eks. Pga. angrerett fra kunde.
Ligger annonse på Finn.
HeiNoen som har hørt nad master serien på psb høyttalere , har lest litt om nad master serien i dag , og det merket fikk jeg også øye opp for , må jo teste ut minst 3-4 kjente gode merker i lytte rommet , høyttalere , subwoofere og kabler vet jeg hva jeg skal ha. Så har jeg lest mye på onkyo og yamaha i dag og siste nevnte marantz av 8802 Når det kommer til prossesor delen og denne marantzen begynner jeg og små sikler på. denne har jo alt og mere til.
Har dæm møsta ht i gulvetHer skriver han fyren som var så heldig og få høre psb imagine på bare nad sin master serie
Hey guys,
I had a chance to not only demo the Image T3s tonight at Saturday Audio, but do some Q and A with Paul Barton about the T3 and a few other topics. I've attached a picture of the T3 in action, as well as another picture showing the NAD M17 and M22. This post may be long, so bear with me.
Unfortunately the room (maybe 12x10) wasn't set up to demo more than the T3, so I couldn't do any direct comparisons against either the Imagine T2 I currently have, or the Synchrony One. My overall impression, having heard both of these speakers before, is that the T3 can put out a huge sound...basically more of what we already have heard from the Synchrony One, but more so.
Paul cited four main differences vs. the Synchrony One:
a) Deeper bass (more extension than the Synchrony)
b) Higher SPL sensitivity, meaning it can be played louder with less energy required
c) A greater overall surface area of the drivers, specifically the new larger 7" woofers, which he referred to as almost "horn loaded"
d) With new improvements in the technology for the 5 1/4" midrange and tweeters, and improvements in the materials used for drivers (you can read about this on the PSB site), overall less distortion
I brought up the capability in the PSB brochures about being able to "short out" the lower woofer, which crosses to the next woofer at 100 Hz in his transitional design, and he suggested that this active method of absorption will have a moderate effect (he literally said a few db reduction in room mode), but will be very beneficial to those of us that have subs and would otherwise waste that lower woofer. With the woofer design, the responses aren't brick walls below the transition to next woofer in the transitional array, so I'd be curious to see what this actually means in practice for crossing vs. subs.
Something else he said was that the T3, unlike the Synchrony One, could be more appropriately used in less than gargantuan room due to changes in the driver sizes. something they introduced in response to the issues associated with users in older buildings with concrete walls, especially in Europe and Asia vs. the drywall he says is dominant in North America. Supposedly the new way the transitional array of woofers in the T3 and the top midrange driver are set up will help deal with undesirable boominess in the lowest frequencies for a more traditional use of the bottom woofer as a "full range" speaker.
As to the listening experience? I heard three tunes, streamed by Paul from his Bluesound Vault (a new media streamer from a sister company): an acoustic version of Nils Lofgren's "Keith Don't Go", Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem", and an electronic music cut I wasn't familiar with that had prominent synth bass. With the M22 (two channel version of the NAD M27 I'm buying) and the M17, I can't say that the T3 had any issues with either high frequencies (Paul cited the snare drums on Keith Don't Go as an example of how loud the speakers can accurately play without distortion - he said up to 115 db SPL FWIW).
The acoustic guitars on the first two tunes was very clear and lifelike, so much so that I had first thought walking to the HT room that they had a live guitar player for the event. Bass on "Spanish Harlem" was tight and deep, and Rebecca Pidgeon's vocals were distinct and at least as well voiced as I've heard in other demos at Saturday Audio. My own feeling, overall, is that I wouldn't necessarily swap my Synchrony One or T2 for these speakers unless I was setting up a larger dedicated HT room that needed higher volumes, but I'd highly recommend them as a new purchase for building a flagship PSB system. Even if you have subs, the "active absorption" feature could be appealing to manage specific rooms. I suggested to Paul that to appeal to AVSers, we'd need bench tests in the speaker reviews showing the impact of the "shorting out", and more than that, a white paper about the technology.
Two other things of interest to at least some of us:
a) PSB is working on Dolby Atmos add-on modules that would be used with existing speakers. No details about timing and which speakers, but they're aware that Dolby Elevation speakers are highly appealing to many planning Atmos configurations. However, right now these are "caps" on top of their towers, and not hybrid forward/top-firing bookshelves.
b) We discussed my Imagine Surround S speakers briefly, which I use in dual mono channel mode to simulate a 7.1 system. Paul suggested that optimal placements for these speakers are to have one of the drivers firing toward the front of the room, and the other toward the back wall, with the speakers physically located slightly in back of the listener (which is a space issue for some of us).
One thing - he certainly works hard! He told me that he was in the midst of a 22 day road trip, starting in China, and that he had 10 different cities to visit before he comes back home next week.
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Ser ut som ene høyttaleren har fått seg en trøkk , nesten vondt og se på disse gleder jeg meg til Men jeg skal ha sort.Har dæm møsta ht i gulvetHer skriver han fyren som var så heldig og få høre psb imagine på bare nad sin master serie
Hey guys,
I had a chance to not only demo the Image T3s tonight at Saturday Audio, but do some Q and A with Paul Barton about the T3 and a few other topics. I've attached a picture of the T3 in action, as well as another picture showing the NAD M17 and M22. This post may be long, so bear with me.
Unfortunately the room (maybe 12x10) wasn't set up to demo more than the T3, so I couldn't do any direct comparisons against either the Imagine T2 I currently have, or the Synchrony One. My overall impression, having heard both of these speakers before, is that the T3 can put out a huge sound...basically more of what we already have heard from the Synchrony One, but more so.
Paul cited four main differences vs. the Synchrony One:
a) Deeper bass (more extension than the Synchrony)
b) Higher SPL sensitivity, meaning it can be played louder with less energy required
c) A greater overall surface area of the drivers, specifically the new larger 7" woofers, which he referred to as almost "horn loaded"
d) With new improvements in the technology for the 5 1/4" midrange and tweeters, and improvements in the materials used for drivers (you can read about this on the PSB site), overall less distortion
I brought up the capability in the PSB brochures about being able to "short out" the lower woofer, which crosses to the next woofer at 100 Hz in his transitional design, and he suggested that this active method of absorption will have a moderate effect (he literally said a few db reduction in room mode), but will be very beneficial to those of us that have subs and would otherwise waste that lower woofer. With the woofer design, the responses aren't brick walls below the transition to next woofer in the transitional array, so I'd be curious to see what this actually means in practice for crossing vs. subs.
Something else he said was that the T3, unlike the Synchrony One, could be more appropriately used in less than gargantuan room due to changes in the driver sizes. something they introduced in response to the issues associated with users in older buildings with concrete walls, especially in Europe and Asia vs. the drywall he says is dominant in North America. Supposedly the new way the transitional array of woofers in the T3 and the top midrange driver are set up will help deal with undesirable boominess in the lowest frequencies for a more traditional use of the bottom woofer as a "full range" speaker.
As to the listening experience? I heard three tunes, streamed by Paul from his Bluesound Vault (a new media streamer from a sister company): an acoustic version of Nils Lofgren's "Keith Don't Go", Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem", and an electronic music cut I wasn't familiar with that had prominent synth bass. With the M22 (two channel version of the NAD M27 I'm buying) and the M17, I can't say that the T3 had any issues with either high frequencies (Paul cited the snare drums on Keith Don't Go as an example of how loud the speakers can accurately play without distortion - he said up to 115 db SPL FWIW).
The acoustic guitars on the first two tunes was very clear and lifelike, so much so that I had first thought walking to the HT room that they had a live guitar player for the event. Bass on "Spanish Harlem" was tight and deep, and Rebecca Pidgeon's vocals were distinct and at least as well voiced as I've heard in other demos at Saturday Audio. My own feeling, overall, is that I wouldn't necessarily swap my Synchrony One or T2 for these speakers unless I was setting up a larger dedicated HT room that needed higher volumes, but I'd highly recommend them as a new purchase for building a flagship PSB system. Even if you have subs, the "active absorption" feature could be appealing to manage specific rooms. I suggested to Paul that to appeal to AVSers, we'd need bench tests in the speaker reviews showing the impact of the "shorting out", and more than that, a white paper about the technology.
Two other things of interest to at least some of us:
a) PSB is working on Dolby Atmos add-on modules that would be used with existing speakers. No details about timing and which speakers, but they're aware that Dolby Elevation speakers are highly appealing to many planning Atmos configurations. However, right now these are "caps" on top of their towers, and not hybrid forward/top-firing bookshelves.
b) We discussed my Imagine Surround S speakers briefly, which I use in dual mono channel mode to simulate a 7.1 system. Paul suggested that optimal placements for these speakers are to have one of the drivers firing toward the front of the room, and the other toward the back wall, with the speakers physically located slightly in back of the listener (which is a space issue for some of us).
One thing - he certainly works hard! He told me that he was in the midst of a 22 day road trip, starting in China, and that he had 10 different cities to visit before he comes back home next week.
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Blir nok en del utprøvinger For dette skal jeg få riktig så jeg slipper bytting hele tiden , dette anlegget skal synge musikk for megHeiNoen som har hørt nad master serien på psb høyttalere , har lest litt om nad master serien i dag , og det merket fikk jeg også øye opp for , må jo teste ut minst 3-4 kjente gode merker i lytte rommet , høyttalere , subwoofere og kabler vet jeg hva jeg skal ha. Så har jeg lest mye på onkyo og yamaha i dag og siste nevnte marantz av 8802 Når det kommer til prossesor delen og denne marantzen begynner jeg og små sikler på. denne har jo alt og mere til.
Spiller daglig med NAD M51 (pre)/dac (men ikke på psb) og den leverer bra synes jeg. Rent, høyoppløst, stort, presist, med stramm og tørr bass. Kan virkelig anbefale den
Liker i grunn mine med Ruby Macassar finish best, men det er no en smakssak.Ser ut som ene høyttaleren har fått seg en trøkk , nesten vondt og se på disse gleder jeg meg til Men jeg skal ha sort.Har dæm møsta ht i gulvetHer skriver han fyren som var så heldig og få høre psb imagine på bare nad sin master serie
Hey guys,
I had a chance to not only demo the Image T3s tonight at Saturday Audio, but do some Q and A with Paul Barton about the T3 and a few other topics. I've attached a picture of the T3 in action, as well as another picture showing the NAD M17 and M22. This post may be long, so bear with me.
Unfortunately the room (maybe 12x10) wasn't set up to demo more than the T3, so I couldn't do any direct comparisons against either the Imagine T2 I currently have, or the Synchrony One. My overall impression, having heard both of these speakers before, is that the T3 can put out a huge sound...basically more of what we already have heard from the Synchrony One, but more so.
Paul cited four main differences vs. the Synchrony One:
a) Deeper bass (more extension than the Synchrony)
b) Higher SPL sensitivity, meaning it can be played louder with less energy required
c) A greater overall surface area of the drivers, specifically the new larger 7" woofers, which he referred to as almost "horn loaded"
d) With new improvements in the technology for the 5 1/4" midrange and tweeters, and improvements in the materials used for drivers (you can read about this on the PSB site), overall less distortion
I brought up the capability in the PSB brochures about being able to "short out" the lower woofer, which crosses to the next woofer at 100 Hz in his transitional design, and he suggested that this active method of absorption will have a moderate effect (he literally said a few db reduction in room mode), but will be very beneficial to those of us that have subs and would otherwise waste that lower woofer. With the woofer design, the responses aren't brick walls below the transition to next woofer in the transitional array, so I'd be curious to see what this actually means in practice for crossing vs. subs.
Something else he said was that the T3, unlike the Synchrony One, could be more appropriately used in less than gargantuan room due to changes in the driver sizes. something they introduced in response to the issues associated with users in older buildings with concrete walls, especially in Europe and Asia vs. the drywall he says is dominant in North America. Supposedly the new way the transitional array of woofers in the T3 and the top midrange driver are set up will help deal with undesirable boominess in the lowest frequencies for a more traditional use of the bottom woofer as a "full range" speaker.
As to the listening experience? I heard three tunes, streamed by Paul from his Bluesound Vault (a new media streamer from a sister company): an acoustic version of Nils Lofgren's "Keith Don't Go", Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem", and an electronic music cut I wasn't familiar with that had prominent synth bass. With the M22 (two channel version of the NAD M27 I'm buying) and the M17, I can't say that the T3 had any issues with either high frequencies (Paul cited the snare drums on Keith Don't Go as an example of how loud the speakers can accurately play without distortion - he said up to 115 db SPL FWIW).
The acoustic guitars on the first two tunes was very clear and lifelike, so much so that I had first thought walking to the HT room that they had a live guitar player for the event. Bass on "Spanish Harlem" was tight and deep, and Rebecca Pidgeon's vocals were distinct and at least as well voiced as I've heard in other demos at Saturday Audio. My own feeling, overall, is that I wouldn't necessarily swap my Synchrony One or T2 for these speakers unless I was setting up a larger dedicated HT room that needed higher volumes, but I'd highly recommend them as a new purchase for building a flagship PSB system. Even if you have subs, the "active absorption" feature could be appealing to manage specific rooms. I suggested to Paul that to appeal to AVSers, we'd need bench tests in the speaker reviews showing the impact of the "shorting out", and more than that, a white paper about the technology.
Two other things of interest to at least some of us:
a) PSB is working on Dolby Atmos add-on modules that would be used with existing speakers. No details about timing and which speakers, but they're aware that Dolby Elevation speakers are highly appealing to many planning Atmos configurations. However, right now these are "caps" on top of their towers, and not hybrid forward/top-firing bookshelves.
b) We discussed my Imagine Surround S speakers briefly, which I use in dual mono channel mode to simulate a 7.1 system. Paul suggested that optimal placements for these speakers are to have one of the drivers firing toward the front of the room, and the other toward the back wall, with the speakers physically located slightly in back of the listener (which is a space issue for some of us).
One thing - he certainly works hard! He told me that he was in the midst of a 22 day road trip, starting in China, and that he had 10 different cities to visit before he comes back home next week.
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Skjønner ikke hva di har gjort på med den skaden der, men psb imagine t3 er skikkelig bygd opp så di må nå ha tålt trykket den har fått. Men har det vert mine så har jeg ville fikset det. Når det kommer til farge har jeg jo dark cherry på mine t6. Men på kommende høyttalere vil jeg ha svart og komponenter i titan farge.Med en slik skade på kabinettet er ikke (vil jeg tro) ht helt på sitt beste lydmessig. Er 10 lag lakk på mine, ikke bare for utseende, men det er med på å stive av kabinettet
Er jo ikke godt å si hva de har tuklet med jeg tar det ikke som kritikk, folk må mene å like hva de vil. Men de har absolutt ikke hentet ut potensialet i Epicon ut fra beskrivelsen, ikke når det gjelder M51 heller for den saks skyld. Hva M22 angår kan jeg ikke uttale meg for jeg har ikke testet den. Det er kommet endel oppgradering på softwaren til M51 som ikke funker ifølge det jeg leser på nettet. Skal være 1.39 som fungerer best, jeg har aldrig prøvd noe annet, mulig de har tuklet med dette. Eller feil plassering, dårlig rom, mm. Kan være så mangt, her hos meg er det slik at om kontakten (strømtilførselen) til komponentene snues 180 feil blir det veldig flistrete i toppen og uklart i mellomtone, vanskelig å høre tekstene. Så det er mange kilder til feil, synd noen setter opp et slikt system for demo om det ikke virker, rommet skulle vært låst til de fant ut av feilen, for noe er tydelivis galtFørst vil jeg nevne for fbh71 at jeg er fan av Epicon 6 som jeg har hørt mest og flest ganger, men også Epicon 8. Så dette er ikke ment som kritikk mot høyttalerene dine.
Jeg hørte på Epicon 8 med Nad sin nye 250 watter, er vel den nevnte M22 det.
Kameraten min synes det var helt katastrofe, men jeg visste at de kunne bedre enn dette.
Det låt veldig stramt i bassen, men uten sjel og veldig sterilt. På en eller annen måte hadde de også klart å få lydbildet til å kun være i midten og det var ingen bredde i lyden.
Dac-en var M51. Har nok mer troa på DP enn denne M22 ja.
Det er jo greit med forandringSkjønner ikke hva di har gjort på med den skaden der, men psb imagine t3 er skikkelig bygd opp så di må nå ha tålt trykket den har fått. Men har det vert mine så har jeg ville fikset det. Når det kommer til farge har jeg jo dark cherry på mine t6. Men på kommende høyttalere vil jeg ha svart og komponenter i titan farge.Med en slik skade på kabinettet er ikke (vil jeg tro) ht helt på sitt beste lydmessig. Er 10 lag lakk på mine, ikke bare for utseende, men det er med på å stive av kabinettet
Mvh Imagine
Ja det er greit med forandring , men cherry farge er fin altså. Men nå er jeg lei av svarte komponenter , det viser så fort støv på di. Og fargen svar gloss på psb imagine t3 er fin. Du sitter nå med heftige høyttalere dali epicon 6 og 8 begge har jeg hørt faktisk , har du 2 rom siden du har både 6 og 8 av epiconDet er jo greit med forandringSkjønner ikke hva di har gjort på med den skaden der, men psb imagine t3 er skikkelig bygd opp så di må nå ha tålt trykket den har fått. Men har det vert mine så har jeg ville fikset det. Når det kommer til farge har jeg jo dark cherry på mine t6. Men på kommende høyttalere vil jeg ha svart og komponenter i titan farge.Med en slik skade på kabinettet er ikke (vil jeg tro) ht helt på sitt beste lydmessig. Er 10 lag lakk på mine, ikke bare for utseende, men det er med på å stive av kabinettet
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