Politikk, religion og samfunn President Donald J. Trump - Quo vadis? (Del 1)

[Asbjørn]

WP forsøker å lese i tebladene:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...as-been-badly-weakened-it-will-get-worse-him/

Trump’s rage-tweets about special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation are looking increasingly pathetic and impotent. On Sunday night, Trump blustered that “people are starting to see and understand what this Witch Hunt is all about,” as if he’s winning the argument over the investigation through sheer force of tweet.

Yet a new NBC News poll demonstrates with remarkable clarity that Trump is decisively losing that argument. It finds that 62 percent of Americans think Trump has not told the truth about the Mueller investigation, while a meager 34 percent think he has — in other words, a huge majority understands that Trump’s been lying his head off about it. Half say Mueller’s investigation has given them more doubts about the Trump presidency. And 55 percent support Democrats opening “a number of investigations” into the administration — and, crucially, into Trump himself.

Meanwhile, The Post offers a striking overview of the totality of the investigations Trump currently faces. They include civil lawsuits and investigations digging into Trump’s business holdings, his charity, his inaugural committee, and, of course, into his campaign’s possible conspiracy with Russia. The upshot: “Nearly every organization he has led in the past decade is under investigation.”

Or, as Wired’s Garrett Graff puts it, as we head into 2019, Trump “faces a legal assault unlike anything previously seen by any president.”

NYT ser frem til at representantenes hus skal begynne å gjøre jobben sin i januar:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/magazine/democrats-trump-investigation.html

The midterm results effectively brought an end to Trump’s legislative agenda, or at least the parts of it that Democrats find objectionable. But the victory gives Democrats little legislative power of their own. If by some miracle any Democrat-authored House bill makes it through the Republican-controlled Senate, Trump’s veto pen awaits.

What the House Democrats will have, however, is oversight authority: the ability to hold hearings and request documents and, if necessary, issue subpoenas to uncover and expose all the incompetence and misconduct and outright corruption that they suspect permeates the executive branch under the current occupant of the White House. “Make no mistake, Democrats will honor our constitutional responsibility to exercise oversight of the Trump administration and get the American people the answers they deserve,” Pelosi said in a statement. “Voters delivered a check and balance on the president that will hold him and his administration accountable for the abuses of power and culture of corruption that have consumed Washington.” Trump is already besieged by the investigation led by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, into Russian interference in the 2016 elections and by multiple probes by the United States attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York into his family business. In January, he will face a Democratic-controlled House of Representatives that suddenly has the power to open a third investigative front against him — power that will reside, in large part, in Cummings’s office.

“The oversight job, after two years of Donald Trump,” says Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat who serves on both the Oversight and Judiciary Committees, “is like coming upon a 73-car pileup on the highway.”

Schiff, the incoming Intelligence Committee chairman, will play a major role. One of his top priorities will be protecting — and assisting — Mueller’s investigation, and one of his first acts in the new Congress will be trying to get to the bottom of one of the more tantalizing mysteries of the whole Russia affair: Whom did Donald Trump Jr. speak to on his phone in between calls setting up the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians peddling dirt on Hillary Clinton? Trump Jr. claims he can’t remember, and the call appears as a blocked number on his phone records. Nunes refused to ask Trump Jr.’s cellular provider for the blocked number. “That phone call may lead to a place the Republicans didn’t want to go,” Schiff says, “and so they were unwilling to get the answer.” Schiff wants the answer and will press the provider for it.

Nunes’s investigation may not have produced much, but under his leadership, the committee did conduct hundreds of hours of interviews: with Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, Roger Stone and other key figures in the Russia matter. On Nunes’s orders, almost all the transcripts have remained in the sole possession of the committee, which has, among other things, kept them out of the hands of Mueller’s investigators. Schiff plans to publicly release the remaining transcripts when the new Congress convenes in January.

In November, Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a Moscow real estate project Trump pursued. Cohen was caught by Mueller’s investigators only because he publicly released his opening statement to the Intelligence Committee. Referring to the unreleased transcripts, Swalwell told me: “I just wonder how many more crimes are just sitting in the basement of the House Intelligence Committee that Mueller doesn’t know about because he hasn’t seen that they lied to us.”

Schiff is also interested in examining Trump’s business dealings — including whether Russians laundered money through the Trump Organization — from a counterintelligence perspective. “What would be most compromising to our nation and our national security is if a hostile foreign power has leverage over the president of the United States,” Schiff told me. Or as the senior Democratic Intelligence Committee official says: “Whenever Putin is alone in a room with Trump with just the two of them and their translators, like they were in Helsinki, is Putin reminding him that he has an Excel spreadsheet of how many rubles are parked in Trump Tower?”

Stay tuned, Fjernis, alt vil komme for en dag. Spesielt det Trump gjerne sett hadde forblitt gjemt, som selvangivelsene hans, all hvitvaskingen av russerpenger gjennom eiendomstransaksjoner, og alt det GOP i kongressen nektet å engang spørre om.

 

[Hardingfele]

Greieste målet på situasjonen er at det er blitt folketomt i korridorene. Det er umulig å få godt kvalifiserte folk til å ta lederstillinger og toppene stikker. Etter Kelly regner man med at Nielsen forsvinner, tilsvarende med Ross. Huckabee Sanders har alt meldt at hun gir seg og Zinke meldte i går at han nå er på vei ut døren (klar over at hans korrupte innsats som innenriksminister vil gi ham trøbbel nå som demokratene tok Representantenes hus.)

Man skjønner hvor vinden blåser:

While Trump has said staff changes are normal for any White House, he has set records for the rate of turnover compared to previous presidents.

Sixty-two percent of senior White House aides have resigned, taken other administration jobs or forced out of office, according to figures compiled by Brookings Institution scholar Kathryn Dunn Tenpas. That figure does not include Kelly's impending departure.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/

 

[Asbjørn]

Siden Fjernis nå har sånn omsorg for Flynn kan vi merke oss at to av Flynns kumpaner ble siktet i forrige uke:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/ex-...de-michael-flynn-indicted-in-turkey-case.html

Bijan Kian, 66, and Kamil Alptekin were charged in U.S. District Court in Eastern Virginia with acting as unregistered agents of the Turkish government, according to court documents made public Monday.

Alptekin, a 41-year-old Turkish national who currently is in Turkey, also was charged with four counts of making false statements to the FBI, according to the indictment, issued by a grand jury last Wednesday.

Flynn and his company were paid $530,000 for their Turkey-related work.

The indictment says that Flynn, identified as “Person A,” and Kian founded a company that offered clients services based on Flynn’s “national security expertise.”

Kian and Alptekin then allegedly secretly conspired to influence American politicians and public opinion about Gulen, when the cleric’s extradition was being sought by Turkey. The Justice Department was resisting that request.

According to the indictment, Kian and Alptekin worked at the direction of the government of Turkey. But they tried to conceal that by having Alptekin’s firm, rather than the Turkish government, serve as the client of Flynn’s company, according to court documents.

In his subsequent op-ed for The Hill, Flynn labeled Gulen a “shady Islamic mullah,” and “a radical Islamist” — and compared him to Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini and to Osama bin Laden.

“We should not provide him safe haven,” Flynn wrote of Gulen. “In this crisis, it is imperative that we remember who our real friends are.”

The op-ed was published Nov. 8, 2016 — the same day as the presidential election — and was a direct result of the conspiracy, according to the indictment.

If convicted, Kian faces a maximum of 15 years in prison, according to a Justice Department press release. Alptekin’s charges add up to a maximum sentence of 35 years in prison.

Ikke godt å vite hvor lang fengselsstraff Flynn selv kan få hvis dommeren bestemmer seg for å klaske til ham med lovboken. Kanskje en 50-60 år som hovedmannen i denne Tyrkia-konspirasjonen, for alle Russland-historiene som han har tilstått, de uautoriserte salgsfremstøtene for atomreaktorer i Midt-østen, merkelige turer til Saudi-Arabia, og det ene med det andre? Dommen faller vel om noen dager.

 

[Hardingfele]

^ Mueller har faktisk bedt om at Flynn må få meget mild straff, til tross for hans mange lovbrudd, pga hans utstrakte og verdifulle samarbeid med etterforskende myndighet og viktige bidrag til oppfyllelse av dennes mandat. Trump sover nok dårlig.

 

[erato]

You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Skal på Dylan i juni.

 

[WayAhead]

Sporløst. Jeg forsøker å legge ut litt åte i form av direkte spørsmål av og til, men ingen napp. Det ser ut til at noen helst vil fortrenge at de noensinne støttet Trump. Det kan jeg godt forstå. Stanken av korrupsjon og fiasko begynner å bli overveldende.

Det siste jeg så fra Fjernis var i en annen tråd hvor han fortsatt benektet at global oppvarming var menneskeskapt og hevdet at det i stedet skyldtes overbefolkning - som de politisk korrekte visstnok ikke er villige til å snakke om. Konfrontert med de opplagte spørsmålene om hvordan folketallet kan påvirke noe som ikke er menneskeskapt erklærte han at folk her inne er for dumme til å forstå og at han fra nå av vil foretrekke diskusjonsfora med mer intelligente deltagere. Også kjent som ekkokammeret.

I det resonnementet ligger det nok en hel del forklaring på hvordan noen kan finne på å støtte Trump også.

Er det ikke stadfestet nå at russerne har plantet muldvarper i ethvert fora der de kunne brukes til å styrke Trump sin sak, kanskje også dette? Hmm......

 

[tkr]

Sporløst. Jeg forsøker å legge ut litt åte i form av direkte spørsmål av og til, men ingen napp. Det ser ut til at noen helst vil fortrenge at de noensinne støttet Trump. Det kan jeg godt forstå. Stanken av korrupsjon og fiasko begynner å bli overveldende.

Det siste jeg så fra Fjernis var i en annen tråd hvor han fortsatt benektet at global oppvarming var menneskeskapt og hevdet at det i stedet skyldtes overbefolkning - som de politisk korrekte visstnok ikke er villige til å snakke om. Konfrontert med de opplagte spørsmålene om hvordan folketallet kan påvirke noe som ikke er menneskeskapt erklærte han at folk her inne er for dumme til å forstå og at han fra nå av vil foretrekke diskusjonsfora med mer intelligente deltagere. Også kjent som ekkokammeret.

I det resonnementet ligger det nok en hel del forklaring på hvordan noen kan finne på å støtte Trump også.

Er det ikke stadfestet nå at russerne har plantet muldvarper i ethvert fora der de kunne brukes til å styrke Trump sin sak, kanskje også dette? Hmm......

Fra spøk til alvor: Dette forumet er nok politisk for ubetydelig, men det hadde vært mer interessant å sjekke ut bidragsyterne på document.no.

Mvh

 

[Asbjørn]

Tja, f..n vet:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/17/tech/russia-2016-election-social-media-report/index.html

In one instance, through its page "Army of Jesus," which was targeting Christians, the group offered "free counseling to people with sexual addiction," New Knowledge found.

The phony counseling service could have created an opportunity to blackmail or manipulate individuals who availed of it, the report notes.

"Recruiting an asset by exploiting a personal vulnerability -- usually a secret that would inspire shame or cause personal or financial harm if exposed -- is a timeless espionage practice," it says.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-was-collusion-now-what-will-we-do-about-it/

I suspect one of the reasons we can even still debate the magnitude of the Russia scandal is that people want a clearer, simpler conspiracy. They’d like to see a document titled “Plan For Collusion Between Russia and Trump Campaign” that lays out in specific detail what both parties would do and is signed at the bottom by Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Even when we see Trump implore Russia on national television to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails and learn that they obeyed the instruction within hours, it somehow isn’t enough.

So we have to assemble the picture from disparate parts: the 16 (at least) Trump officials who had contacts with Russians during the campaign and transition, the Russian hack of Democratic emails, the carefully timed release of those emails to maximize damage to Clinton, the extraordinary social media effort the IRA mounted to amplify the Trump campaign’s efforts, and who knows what else.

When we speak now of “the Trump campaign,” we have to think about it as something larger than just those people who were working at the Trump Tower headquarters. The Trump campaign was also the National Enquirer buying the silence of an (alleged) Trump mistress, attempting to knock off Trump’s primary opponents and spreading lurid rumors about Clinton to every American who ever stood in a supermarket checkout line. And the Trump campaign was Russian intelligence, echoing the campaign’s messages and working for both the short- and long-term goals the campaign had set out.

Now what are we going to do about it?

 

[WayAhead]

Siste nytt fra NewsNow....

TOP Explosive new claims from ex-Apprentice crew member rock US President - New Zealand Herald20:35

TOP Trump Is Implicated in Another Crime, And It May Hint Where the Mueller Investigation Is Headed … - Paste Magazine20:33

Chrissy Teigen's latest Trump clapback is so savage—and we're still laughing - HelloGiggles21:42

Cuba Blames Trump for Bread, Egg, Meat, and Rice Shortages Before New Year - Breitbart 21:42

 

[WayAhead]

Sporløst. Jeg forsøker å legge ut litt åte i form av direkte spørsmål av og til, men ingen napp. Det ser ut til at noen helst vil fortrenge at de noensinne støttet Trump. Det kan jeg godt forstå. Stanken av korrupsjon og fiasko begynner å bli overveldende.

Det siste jeg så fra Fjernis var i en annen tråd hvor han fortsatt benektet at global oppvarming var menneskeskapt og hevdet at det i stedet skyldtes overbefolkning - som de politisk korrekte visstnok ikke er villige til å snakke om. Konfrontert med de opplagte spørsmålene om hvordan folketallet kan påvirke noe som ikke er menneskeskapt erklærte han at folk her inne er for dumme til å forstå og at han fra nå av vil foretrekke diskusjonsfora med mer intelligente deltagere. Også kjent som ekkokammeret.

I det resonnementet ligger det nok en hel del forklaring på hvordan noen kan finne på å støtte Trump også.

Er det ikke stadfestet nå at russerne har plantet muldvarper i ethvert fora der de kunne brukes til å styrke Trump sin sak, kanskje også dette? Hmm......

Fra spøk til alvor: Dette forumet er nok politisk for ubetydelig, men det hadde vært mer interessant å sjekke ut bidragsyterne på document.no.

Mvh

Det kan du si men, dette er en sann historie fra Sovjet tiden: "Russerene" skaffet seg alle US tidsskrifter (I*USA)*som omhandlet US teknologi, fly og militær*bla. Men, de kjøpte aldri bladene i kiosker og utsalg, nei de måtte bestikke noen på trykkeriet for å få noen eks rett fra pressa fordi de var sikre på at bladene som var komersielt tilgjengelig var "faket" for å lure "russerne". Dette er helt sant, rett fra kilden så å si så det er fn ikke godt å vite. Mulig de har kommet noe lengre i dag.

 

[cruiser]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...ested-by-courts-after-christmas-parody-sketch

Donald Trump tweets NBC, 'SNL' should be tested by courts after Christmas parody sketch

 

[Hardingfele]

Video i linken: https://twitter.com/janetelsen7/status/1073060860208275458

 

[Disqutabel]

^ Det var rene ord for pengene.

Det er utvilsomt en god del sannhet i det som framføres, samtidig som det er både pompøst og bombastisk. Jeg er slett ikke så sikker på at det amerikanske samfunnet er interessert i å rydde opp i mafiavirksomheten som nå virkelig har fått fotfeste i toppen. Ja, det blir en maktkamp. Men når makten og mafiaen er samme sak, da er ikke resultatet gitt på noen måte.
Dessuten er det mange blinde følgere dere ute, som ønsker at mafiaen skal få herje i fred.

Disqutabel

 

[Fjernis 2.0]

Michel Houellebecq er en jeg er mye enig med, han ser på Trump på samme måte som meg:

In summary, President Trump seems to me to be one of the best American presidents I’ve ever seen.

In all sincerity, I like Americans a lot; I’ve met many lovely people in the United States, and I empathize with the shame many Americans (and not only “New York intellectuals”) feel at having such an appalling clown for a leader.

https://www.document.no/2018/12/18/michel-houellebecq-donald-trump-er-en-god-president/

 

[otare]

Jeg ser at Trump har skrytt veldig av hvor godt børsen har utviklet seg under hans presidenttid (en utvikling som startet da Obama tok over). Jeg har imidlertid ikke hørt så mye fra ham omkring børsutviklingen i det siste...

 

[Fjernis 2.0]

Steele rapporten er sann, det er ikke motbevist noe av det var det vel noe av dere har skrevet de siste dagene, til og med en av den første som skrev om rapporten mener at mye av det er direkte løgn.

The salacious and unverified opposition research dossier cited by the FBI as its main justification to surveil a top Trump aide contains many claims that are "likely false," according to the Yahoo News reporter who was among the first to break the news of the dossier's existence.

In broad strokes, Christopher Steele was clearly onto something, that there was a major Kremlin effort to interfere in our elections, that they were trying to help Trump's campaign, and that there was multiple contacts between various Russian figures close to the government and various people in Trump's campaign,” Isikoff said.

But he added: “When you actually get into the details of the Steele dossier, the specific allegations, we have not seen the evidence to support them, and, in fact, there's good grounds to think that some of the more sensational allegations will never be proven and are likely false.

Så det er antageligvis falskt alt sammen, FBI løy til FISA osv.

On four occasions, the FBI told the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) court that it "did not believe" Steele was the direct source for Isikoff's Sept. 23, 2016 Yahoo News article implicating former Trump aide Carter Page in Russian collusion.

Instead, the FBI suggested to the court, the article by Michael Isikoff was independent corroboration of the salacious, unverified allegations against Trump in the infamous Steele dossier. Federal authorities used both the Steele dossier and Yahoo News article to convince the FISA court to authorize a surveillance warrant for Page.

But London court records show that contrary to the FBI's assessments, Steele briefed Yahoo News and other reporters in the fall of 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS -- the opposition research firm behind the dossier.

Jo så må vi jo ta med:

The dossier was created by British ex-spy Christopher Steele and funded by the firm Fusion GPS -- which was retained by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/li...new-credibility-challenges-from-cohen-isikoff

Det er noen som bør tiltales men det er ikke Trump.

 

[Northman]

Wow.. enda et forsøk på å snakke bort Steele dossieren..


Ser flere like poster på diverse US forum jeg er på.


Regner med FOx and friends har kjørt massiv kampanje i helga?

 

[Hardingfele]

Department of Homeland Security burde ansette en pressemeldingansvarlig som kan skrive engelsk ... morsomt robotspråk.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work

 

[Fjernis 2.0]

Til og med Pokemon GO brukte russerne for å hjelpe Trump.

Ny rapport: Russere påvirket USA-valget via Pokemon Go

https://www.nrk.no/urix/ny-rapport_-russere-pavirket-usa-valget-via-pokemon-go-1.14345693

Dette er så latterlig og vanlige ikke fanatiske mennesker har sluttet og bry seg om denne komedien.

 

[65finger]

Har du revet deg løs fra koko- nettstedene for å opplyse oss fanatiske idioter hvordan ting egentlig henger sammen fjern?

 

[Trane]

Department of Homeland Security burde ansette en pressemeldingansvarlig som kan skrive engelsk ... morsomt robotspråk.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work

Det ser vel nettopp ut som de har en pressemeldingsansvarlig som er WH-godkjent og Trump-lojal.
Mangler bare noen CAPs og et par Hilaries så er det rett fra flåkjeften sjøl.

Trist når kommunikasjon fra departementet så overtydelig er diktert fra WH for å tekkes sjefen.
Det minner veldig om regimer vi ikke ønsker å sammenligne oss med....?!€$£!! som USA......

 

[Disqutabel]

Til og med Pokemon GO brukte russerne for å hjelpe Trump.

Ny rapport: Russere påvirket USA-valget via Pokemon Go

https://www.nrk.no/urix/ny-rapport_-russere-pavirket-usa-valget-via-pokemon-go-1.14345693

Dette er så latterlig og vanlige ikke fanatiske mennesker har sluttet og bry seg om denne komedien.

Opplever du at majoriteten er fanatikere, nå, eller hva er det du mener her?

Disqutabel

 

[Hardingfele]

Senere i dag faller dom mot general Michael Flynn, som likte å høre forsamlinger rope "Lock her up!" mens han drev valgkamp for Trump.
Han drev også med en del annet, som førte til at han måtte gå som nasjonal sikkerhetsrådgiver og senere kom under tiltale for å ha løyet om sine kontakter med den russiske ambassadøren og andre, russiske interesser.
Det er selvsagt lov å spise middag med Putin, når man feirer en russisk propagandakanal. Nå som vi også vet hvordan sosiale medier ble brukt av russerne, for å fremme Russlands interesser i det amerikanske presidentvalget, blir kanskje saken en annen.

Mueller har bedt om en mild straff for Flynn, pga dennes utstrakte og verdifulle bidrag til Muellers etterforskning.
Men det er skjær i sjøen -- man har påstått at Mueller og hans etterforskere bedrev urent spill mot Flynn, da de ikke advarte ham om at de satt med opptak av dennes telefonsamtaler med russere. Og Flynns egne advokater har fremmet dette i retten, som grunnlag for å avvise et domsgrunnlag. Dette mener observatører er en tåpelig strategi, da dommeren kan finne å idømme strengere straff enn hva Mueller har bedt om, for å gjøre det klart at en øvre myndighetsperson med lang fartstid i militæret og statsadministrasjon (Flynn tjente i Obama-administrasjonen i noen år), helt klart vet at man skal la være å lyve til FBI, det skal ingen behøve å fortelle deg.

Fortellingen er ikke over, selvsagt, for nå kommer ytterligere anklager mot personer enda tettere på Trump, i forbindelse med russersporet. NRA er i ferd med å gå konkurs - våpenveivende amerikanere forstår ikke hvorfor ledelsen tok imot penger fra Russland og støtten til NRA har falt. Spionen Maria Butina hadde carte blanche i republikanske kretser: https://thinkprogress.org/here-are-...tive-activists-maria-butina-met-134988a75bbb/
Og amerikansk etterretning er forbannet over at Flynn, Manafort og Kushner ville ha en avlyttingssikker kanal til Kremlin, organisert av den russiske ambassadøren: det mener man fortalte russerne at disses andre kanaler var avlyttet, en etterretningsglipp større enn når et av Norges topp hemmelige anlegg får en busstopp kalt "Natoanlegget".

Det går unna nå:

Flynn is unlikely to be sentenced to significant prison time. Citing his “substantial assistance” in ongoing investigations, Mueller recommended a lenient sentence for Flynn and has not asked for any jail time.

But Flynn and his attorneys may have scrambled his situation by arguing that Flynn was entrapped by the FBI into lying about his Russia contacts, giving new life to a theory among conservatives that the one-time Trump campaign surrogate was wronged by the Justice Department and Mueller.

Flynn’s defense attorneys asked the court to spare him from prison and sentence him to at most one-year probation last week. They cited an FBI report stating that agents did not warn Flynn of the penalties for making a false statement “because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport.”

Without disputing Mueller’s characterization of the crime, they argued Sullivan should consider the circumstances of his interview when evaluating “the seriousness of the offense.”

The court filing added fresh drama to Flynn’s case and prompted Sullivan, who has a reputation as a hawk for any government misconduct, to ask Mueller to produce documents related to Flynn’s interview, which the special counsel filed in redacted form on Friday and Monday.

It also inspired a firm rebuke from Mueller, who wrote that Flynn “chose” to lie and asserted that Flynn, a retired three-star Army general and former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, “knows he should not lie to federal agents.”

Mueller also asked Sullivan to reject Flynn’s attempt to “minimize the seriousness of those false statements to the FBI.”

https://thehill.com/policy/national...arks-keystone-moment-in-mueller-investigation

 

[Asbjørn]

Wow.. enda et forsøk på å snakke bort Steele dossieren..

Ser flere like poster på diverse US forum jeg er på.

Regner med FOx and friends har kjørt massiv kampanje i helga?

Det er ikke bare Fox:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...n-against-mueller-it-sounds-just-like-trumps/

Prepare to sit down for this one: In an extraordinary coincidence, it turns out that Russia’s messaging about the Mueller investigation is eerily, strikingly similar to the attacks on it waged by a rather prominent American: President Trump.

As The Post notes, the Russian attacks were “unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond.” But when you dig into the report that details these attacks, you can’t help but notice the similarity in these attacks’ content with that of Trump’s.

The report notes that IRA’s main goal was “to frame the Russian election interference as a paranoid fantasy of the Establishment and the left.”

According to these new reports, Russia has tried to undermine the Mueller probe to keep Trump in office. But Russia also has done this because it has an interest, obviously, in dodging accountability for its attacks on our election, so it can continue to undermine future elections, something U.S. intelligence has warned will continue happening.

And so, whether or not Trump “colluded,” Trump’s attacks on the Mueller investigation don’t just overlap in content with Russia’s. They also serve Russian strategic goals as well, undermining public faith in law enforcement and the media and making future electoral sabotage more likely — all to the detriment of our political system.

 

[Hardingfele]

 

[tkr]

Jeg synes at dette er direkte festlig. Donald Trumps veldedige stiftelse, Trump Foundation, blir tvangsoppløst grunnet kriminell aktivitet:

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/tr...upervision-lawsuit-new-york-attorney-general/

Under rettslig oppsyn for å sørge for at i hvertfall noen penger derfra blir brukt til veldedige formål.

mvh

 

[Northman]

Harding: Så på flere forum at konspirasjonsgalningene har hevdet at Mueller har holdt tilbake Flynn sin første "302".. intervju loggen med FBI.

Konspirasjonsgalningene har hevdet at denne har "forsvunnet" fordi Mueller har fabrikert bevis og løyet for Flynn for å få til en avtale.

Og om Mueller har løyet om dette, så skal vistnok Flynn gå fri fordi de har "lurt" Flynn.


Galninger...



Nå gikk det så langt at dommeren krevde at "302" skulle frem for offentligheten. Den var unndratt offentligheten av sikkerhetshensyn og selv Mueller ønsker ikke at denne skulle vises.

Dette tok KG som et hint om at Mueller faktisk har løyet for Flynn og dermed ødelagt helt sin egen sak.......



VEL VEL VEL... viser seg at Flynn ble opplyst flere ganger av FBI, at de viste hva han har sagt og gjort og de nevnte det flere ganger for han under intervjuet.. og fremdeles så løy han.


Regner med at Dommeren krevde at dette skulle opp og frem i offentligheten.... fordi dommeren kommer til å gi han fengselstid ( mitt veddemål 10år ) som følge av dette og vil bruke denne "302"en som bevis på at han bevist har løyet når han selv vet FBI vet at det er løgn.



Det ble veeeeldig stille på disse forumene, når plutselig "302" ble frigitt av dommeren og det viser seg at Flynn var klar over alt og fremdeles løy.
For noen galninger!!

 

[erato]

De som tviler på at det russerne gjorde virket, kan bare se på Fjernis.

 

[Asbjørn]

Dommeren virker ikke veldig imponert over Flynn så langt:
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/so...-scathing-smackdown-michael-flynn-sentencing/

While reviewing the charges against Flynn, Sullivan questioned prosecutors whether Flynn could have been charged this week in a case involving two former business associates who worked as unregistered lobbyists for the Turkish government.

The prosecutors replied that he could have, and that his legal exposure in the case was significant.

Then Sullivan started absolutely tearing into Flynn for his offenses.

“You were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the national security adviser to the president of the United States!” Sullivan fumed. “Arguably, this undermines everything this flag over here stands for! Arguably, you sold your country out!”

Sullivan continued by saying, “I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense.”

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office has said that it is not recommending jail time for Flynn due to his substantial cooperation in their investigation. However, Judge Sullivan is not bound to abide by their sentencing guidelines.

For ordens skyld tvang dommeren ham til å tilstå en gang til for åpen rett, slik at ikke Fjerniser og lignende skulle fortelle flere konspirasjonsteorier om at han ble "framed".

Hva var det Fjernis siterte i går om "en ærlig dommer"? Dette er rene ord:

Judge Emmet Sullivan asked in court today if Michael Flynn's conduct "rises to the level of treasonous activity?"

Prosecutor Brandon Van Grack, speaking for the special counsel's office, said prosecutors did not consider charging Flynn with treason.

Then Sullivan asked again: "Could he have been charged with treason?”

Van Grack wouldn't go there.

 

[Northman]

Flynn har bedt om å utsette domfellingen...

Etter en kraftig overhøvling ifra dommeren om hvor skuffet han er over Flynn, hintet om forræderi, irritert over at han ikke har hjulpet etterforskningen mer og spurt om han er sikker på om han ikke vil hjelpe etterforskningen litt til?

Så har Flynns advokater etter en kort pause bedt om å utsette domfellingen en stund til.


Dommeren godkjenner og utsetter til Mars.



Flynn forstod nok at han kom til å få et par bøker kastet på seg
Blir vel et par møter til med Mueller..

 

[Asbjørn]

Det ordrette sitatet:

Michael Flynn's attorney has asked Judge Emmet Sullivan to delay the sentencing.

"We are prepared to take your honor up on his suggestion of delaying sentencing, so he can (sic) out the last modicum of cooperation" in Virginia, the attorney said.

Prosecutors said they had no problems delaying the sentencing.

Fritt oversatt: "Kjære Mueller, er det noe mer jeg kan hjelpe deg med?"

 

[Hardingfele]

 

[Asbjørn]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-had-their-anti-mueller-hopes-dreams-dashed/

On Saturday, Fox News host Jeanine Pirro engaged in a bit of wishful fantasizing.

Earlier that week, Michael Flynn’s attorneys seemed to imply that he was tricked into lying to the FBI. In response, the judge in Flynn’s case asked for more information about Flynn’s interview. Pirro wagered that the judge, Emmet G. Sullivan, might blow up special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s entire case.

She hailed Sullivan as “a jurist unafraid of the swamp, a judge who has a track record of calling out prosecutorial misconduct, a man who does not tolerate injustice or abuse of power.”

Eksakt.

 

[erato]

Han har i hvert fall skjønt hvilken sump det er som må dreneres, dette i motsetning til visse andre.

 

[Hardingfele]

Det som skjer er, selvsagt, umåtelig interessant. Vi står overfor et skår i virkeligheten, der man ser hendelser med helt ulike oppfatninger. Akkurat det er ikke noe nytt, men nå får vi informasjon i sanntid og den ligger i dagen, klar til å vurderes av observatører.

Som trekker vilt ulike konklusjoner fra samme grunnlagsmateriale, utfra fordommer, frykt for prestisjetap og en forferdelig kognitiv dissonans mellom det man ønsker skal være sant og det som synes å være sant. Folk som har gjort seg opp en mening om at Trump er en skurk (jeg er en av dem) irrer nok også i sinnet, men jammen er det rart å måtte være en av dem som går rundt og innbiller seg at denne Quisling-karakteren av en Bør Børson er en skytshelgen som har omsorg i tankene for vanlige amerikanere.

Det spørs hvordan det er å være Trump-tilhenger når dette rakner og mannen står avkledd. Nixon knuste McGovern i valget i 1972. Sistnevnte tok 17 valgmenn. Likevel var det veldig vanskelig å finne en Nixon-velger etter at "I'm not a crook" hadde tatt avskjed i unåde og satset på å bli benådet av sin etterfølger Ford, noe som Gerald Ford innvilget, selv om han visste at dette ville slå mot ham.

Hvor blir det av Trump-tilhengerne når dette er avrundet? Hva kan de gjøre? I motsetning til velgerne i 1974, har dagens tapetsert internett med meldinger om hvilken paragon, helgen og sjelevenn Trump er. Det kan man ikke trylle vekk.

 

[Hardingfele]

The Long Read: https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...ide-story-of-trumps-shambolic-transition-team

 

[Asbjørn]

^ Fantastisk. Et dagsaktuelt øyeblikk i overgangen:

After meeting with Pence, Christie was scheduled to brief the Trump children, Kushner and the other members of Trump’s inner circle. He was surprised to find, suddenly included in this group, retired army lieutenant general Michael Flynn. Flynn was a jobseeker the transition team had found reasons to be extremely wary of. Now he wanted to be named Trump’s national security adviser, which was maybe the most important job in the entire national security apparatus. The national security team inside the Trump transition – staffed with senior former military and intelligence officials – had thought that was an especially bad idea. Flynn’s name was not on the list. But here he was, in the meeting to decide who would do what in the Trump administration, and Ivanka was asking him which job he would like to have.

Before Christie could intercede, Bannon grabbed him and asked to see him privately. Christie followed Bannon to his office impatiently. Hey, this is going to have to be quick, said Christie.

It’s really quick, said Bannon. You’re out.

Why? asked Christie, stunned.

We’re making a change.

“Okay, what are we changing?

You.

Why?

It’s really not important.

The method of his execution was unsurprising: Trump always avoided firing people himself. The man who played Mr You’re Fired on TV avoided personal confrontation in real life. The surprise was that it was being done now, just when the work of the transition team was most critical. Only when Christie threatened to go down and tell reporters that Bannon had fired him did Bannon concede, “It was Jared.”

 

[tkr]

Jesus Kristus.....

mvh

 

[erato]

Artikkelen er virkelig skremmende.

 

[weld77]

Fantastisk artikkel fra The Guardian. Dette avsnittet inneholder dyp innsikt - et fenomen vi også finner her på berget:

“People don’t understand that a bungled transition becomes a bungled presidency.” The new people taking over the job of running the government were at best only partially informed, and often deeply suspicious, of whatever happened to be going on before they arrived. By the time they fully grasped the problems they were dealing with, it was time to go. “It’s Groundhog Day,” said Stier. “The new people come in and think that the previous administration and the civil service are lazy or stupid. Then they actually get to know the place they are managing. And when they leave they say: ‘This was a really hard job, and those are the best people I’ve ever worked with.’ This happens over and over and over.”

I Norge blir heldigvis ikke mesteparten av statsapparatet byttet ut ved valg, men opposisjonspolitikere som plutselig befinner seg i posisjon opplever dette realtivt kjapt. Dette er kompliserte saker.