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Godt eksempel. Enkelte er veldig opptatt av å telle senger og sengeplasser. Det er ikke det som helbreder. Det er folk med kompetanse!
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Medisin og helse Corona
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På Kalnes har man ikke korridorpasienter, de er transittpasienter (ifølge sykehusdirektøren da han ble konfrontert med alle korridorpasientene på et sykehus som skulle være bygd for å unngå korridorpssienter.
Bra poeng. Det er også hele kategorier av sykehusopphold som mer eller mindre har gått vekk. Operasjon for magesår, for eksempel. Håndteres nå vanligvis med antibiotika-kur i stedet (heliobacter pylori, oppdaget 1982).
Jeg knakk leggen på tre steder en onsdag i 2011. Det var dessverre mange i samme situasjon etter hålkeføre, så jeg måtte vente til lørdag på operasjon. Ble skrudd sammen av svensk kirurg som var fløyet inn for å ta unna køen. Opptrening i trapper på mandagen, ut av sykehuset på torsdag, tilbake i jobb påfølgende mandag. Tre dager lengre opphold enn nødvendig pga ventetid. Aner ikke hvordan noe tilsvarende ville blitt håndtert i tidligere år, men jeg mistenker liggetiden ville vært noe lenger.
Jeg kan forøvrig attestere at det finnes korridorpasienter på Kalnes, ja.Sist redigert:Ja, dagens sykehus er bygd for at pasientene skal reise hjem så fort det er medisinsk forsvarlig. Noen ganger tar man feil og sender hjem pasienter som ikke bør sendes hjem, men det er tross alt unntakene. Liggetiden på norske sykehus har gått drastisk ned, og dermed også antall senger.- Ble medlem
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For noen få år siden fant de noe rytme issues på hjertet mitt, etter èn uke ga jeg opp om å få komme meg hjem, ble der i 3 uker med en utrolig oppfølging og behandling. Det ble svær kake og blomster til avdelingen da jeg reiste hjem. Min referanse fra helsevesenet. De som snakker ned helsevesenet til meg får seg alltid en rundt øret.
. Samtidig som jeg vet at det er millioner av historier der ute. Ikke så ofte vi hører om de gode.
En del av årsaken til reduksjonen av sengeplasser ligger utvilsomt i en utstrakt bruk av enerom til alle.... for 30-40 år siden var det helt vanlig med 3-4-5-6 på samme rom, - med de problemer det medførte.Sist redigert:
På 80 tallet lå jeg 3mnd på sykehus på 6mannsrom.... ikke rart vi ble dopet med sovemedisin for å få sove i snorke og stønne duren... Men jeg tok med meg en av sykepleierskene hjem som kone da, så det kom noe godt ut av det. Operasjonen derimot var ikke særlig vellykket, 2år i sykehuskø hadde gjort mye skade på kroppen,Sist redigert:Governments Wrestling With Omicron Weigh Mitigation Versus Containment
The holiday weekend began with governments wrestling with whether to focus on containing the spread of Omicron or trying to mitigate its effects, as staff outages and self-isolation requirements continued to disrupt travel.
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The Christmas holiday weekend began with a growing number of governments wrestling with whether to focus on containing the spread of the Omicron variant or trying to mitigate its effects as staff outages and self-isolation requirements continued to disrupt travel and other services across the U.S. and Europe.
Airlines in the U.S. canceled more than 600 flights on Friday, calling off hundreds more that were scheduled for Saturday, and there were similar disruptions across Europe, according FlightAware, a flight-tracking site, reflecting the wider disruptions caused by the quickly spreading strain of Covid-19. Some governments have begun shortening their recommended isolation periods for anyone contracting the virus to limit workforce shortages in key sectors, while the U.S. is rushing to boost testing capacity.
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said Friday that critical workers—including those in education, healthcare, transportation, grocery stores and sanitation—who tested positive for the virus would be allowed to return to work after five days under certain conditions. They would have to be fully vaccinated and either they don’t have symptoms or their symptoms are resolving and they haven’t had a fever for 72 hours.
Those returning will need to remain masked, Ms. Hochul said. “We need you again, we need you to be able to go to work,” she said.
New York state’s move comes after England shortened its recommended self-isolation period to seven days for vaccinated people, and some airline executives wrote to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention seeking an adjustment in agency isolation guidelines to avoid disruptions to operations.
The CDC on Thursday revised its isolation and quarantine guidelines for healthcare workers, partly to help hospitals maintain enough staff to deal with any rise in admissions due to Omicron. Healthcare workers can go back to work within seven days following a negative test, or potentially even sooner in a staffing crunch. Also, healthcare workers who are fully vaccinated and who got a booster wouldn’t need to isolate after high-risk exposure to the virus.
To help combat Omicron, the Biden administration is opening up more Covid testing sites and delivering 500 million Covid tests to Americans. WSJ’s Daniela Hernandez breaks down why testing is still a pain point in the U.S., two years into the pandemic. Photo Illustration: David Fang
In the U.S., the 7-day average of Covid-19 cases has eclipsed the peak during Delta’s march through the country. The average reached 182,682 as of Dec. 23, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Johns Hopkins University data; the last time the figure was higher was Jan. 21.
In South Africa, where Omicron was first identified, people who don’t have any Covid symptoms won’t have to isolate or take a test if they have been in contact with positive case, the government said Friday. The progress of the new variant in the country has been closely watched after it was first identified last month. Studies there, along with similar studies in Scotland and the U.K., have pointed to a substantially lower risk of hospitalization with Omicron compared with earlier variants such as Delta.
South Africa’s health ministry now advises that asymptomatic people who have been in contact with whose who had tested positive don’t need to isolate but should instead monitor possible symptoms for up to a week and avoid attending large gatherings. Only people developing symptoms should get tested, and isolate for eight to 10 days.
Elsewhere, governments are considering tightening restrictions. French authorities will convene a special meeting to assess the progress of the pandemic on Monday, which could lead to further curbs on travel, after France recorded another daily record of nearly 100,000 new infections Friday, 20% of which were attributed to the Omicron variant. Italy also reported another daily record of more than 50,000 new infections, though like elsewhere, the increase in hospitalizations remains modest in comparison.
The U.K. also reported a new daily record of infections on Friday, this time passing 120,000. London is among the worst-affected areas. The U.K.’s Office for National Statistics estimates that one in 20 Londoners had Covid-19 on Dec. 16, with that figure rising to one in 10 last Sunday. Critical services are beginning to feel the weight of enforced staff absences due to isolation requirements or illness.
While Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government has reduced the required isolation period to ease the strain and get people back to work more quickly, he hasn’t yet ruled out the prospect of further social-distancing measures in the coming days. Such steps have already been announced in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Many citizens opted to stay home regardless, worried of testing positive and having to cancel holiday plans.
The head of the U.K.’s Health Security Agency on Friday said future decisions would likely be based on social needs in addition to the severity of the illness caused by Omicron.
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In South Africa, where Omicron was first identified, people who don’t have any Covid symptoms won’t have to isolate or take a test if they have been in contact with positive case, the government said Friday. The progress of the new variant in the country has been closely watched after it was first identified last month. Studies there, along with similar studies in Scotland and the U.K., have pointed to a substantially lower risk of hospitalization with Omicron compared with earlier variants such as Delta.
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Jøss, betaler de juletillegg på disse russiske trollfabrikkene?
Wall Street Journal er vel ett stykke unna det.
– Norge er med på å forlenge pandemien
Rike land som Norge tar en for stor del av vaksinekaka, og det kan være med på å forlenge pandemien, sier FHI-direktør Camilla Stoltenberg.
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Denne er lite troverdig av Camilla - hun oppfordrer sterkt folk ned til 18 år å ta booster grunnet en teoretisk sannsynlighet for mindre smitte, uten at det påvirker vaksinens viktigste funksjon - alvorlig sykdomsforløp. Hun er tvetydig og lite troverdig.
– Norge er med på å forlenge pandemien
Rike land som Norge tar en for stor del av vaksinekaka, og det kan være med på å forlenge pandemien, sier FHI-direktør Camilla Stoltenberg.
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Covid lockdowns plunged nearly a million people into poverty, warns think tank
Devastating impact of curbs laid bare in research as Tory peer warns more measures could reverse gains made since rules were eased in springwww.telegraph.co.uk
‘Dodgy data’ used in push for tighter Covid restrictions
Health chief accused of disseminating misleading statistics on hospitalisations that overstated the risk from omicron
One of Britain’s most senior health advisers has been accused of disseminating “dodgy data” that inflated the potential risk of omicron.
Dr Jenny Harries, the chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), is understood to have been the source of a contested claim by Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, that there is typically a 17-day lag between patients becoming infected and requiring hospitalisation.
However, independent experts pointed to Office for National Statistics (ONS) data, which suggested an average delay of nine or 10 days.
The claim by Mr Javid was seen as an attempt to strengthen the case for urgent new Covid-19 restrictions, on the basis that the country could be on the brink of a major spike in hospitalisations due to omicron.
Dr Harries has claimed that omicron was “probably the most significant threat we’ve had since the start of the pandemic”.
Health and scientific advisers have been pushing for lockdown measures and Boris Johnson will have to urgently decide whether or not to impose new restrictions before the New Year.
However, government sources have suggested that is now unlikely, based on the latest data and a wall of opposition from Conservative backbenchers and ministers.
The latest UKHSA data show that people infected with the variant were between 50 and 70 per cent less likely to be admitted to hospital than with delta. Daily meetings of the Cabinet’s Covid Operations committee will resume on Monday.
At the time of Mr Javid’s claim last weekend, despite soaring cases, only 85 people were in hospital with confirmed omicron, a figure that has since risen to 366.
Simon Briscoe, a former Treasury statistician, said that the 17-day figure appeared to be either a “deliberate statistical sleight of hand designed to deceive, or incompetence”.
If deliberate, he added, it seemed that officials were “in effect trying to buy time, as officials realise that data of rising hospitalisations is needed to justify lockdown”.
Lack of support for future Covid curbs
Mark Harper, the chairman of the Covid Recovery Group, said: “Covid restrictions damage people’s lives, livelihoods and mental wellbeing. So it’s really important that the debate about them is based on solid data.
“Serious questions need to be asked if senior health advisers are furnishing ministers with misleading figures, and failing to correct them at the earliest opportunity.
“Ministers also have a responsibility to ask detailed questions to ensure they aren’t using dodgy data. We can do better than this.”
A new analysis by the Legatum Institute think tank suggested that the Covid-19 lockdowns pushed 900,000 people into poverty and that further measures would jeopardise the recovery from the earlier restrictions.
Writing in The Telegraph, Baroness Stroud of Fulham, the think tank’s chief executive, also warned of a knock-on effect caused by hints of potential further measures.
Amid a projected improvement in poverty levels, “renewed restrictions and constant hints of tougher measures after Christmas means that we are putting these poverty gains at risk”, she said.
The Telegraph understands that Gareth Lyon, the chairman of the Aldershot and North Hampshire Conservative Association – whose MP is Leo Docherty, a defence minister – has resigned over the introduction of Plan B measures.
“What we’re doing is the precise opposite of Conservatism,” Mr Lyon said. “There are a great many of us in the voluntary party who are finding the leadership's instinctive big government approach to everything impossible to support.
“If yet more restrictions come in after Christmas, I know that many others will find it difficult to reconcile their views and principles with the party’s direction.”
Meanwhile, the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Vincent Nichols, urged the Government not to close churches as part of any new restrictions, saying “people can make good judgments themselves”.
Dr Harries conveyed the 17-day figure to Mr Javid in a telephone call last week, during a conversation about the likely lag between infection and hospitalisation. It is understood to have been presented as an estimate, based largely on Covid-19 studies published last year and in early 2021, before the emergence of omicron.
In a subsequent article last week, published by The Telegraph, in which he appeared to lay the groundwork for more restrictions, Mr Javid stated: “Sadly, seven people have died with omicron and 85 people are in hospital with confirmed omicron, but there are likely to be a lot more.
“And we know that the typical time between infection and hospitalisation is 17 days, so today’s hospital numbers reflect infections that took place more than two weeks ago when omicron was here in much smaller numbers and represented fewer than one per cent of infections.”
The figure caused bemusement among some analysts and clinicians. It now transpires that it was a “generous” estimate provided by Dr Harries and rooted in studies that all pre-dated omicron.
Officials at the UKHSA, which was formerly Public Health England, now believe that the gap between infections and hospitalisations is about 12 days.
Mr Briscoe said that ONS data suggested a lag of between one and two weeks. The ONS said in June, before the emergence of omicron, that the average time between Covid-19 infection and the onset of symptoms was five to six days, while the median delay between symptom onset and hospital admission varied between one and seven days.
Dr Harries has previously come under fire for attempting to justify the decision to halt routine testing in March 2020 by claiming that it was “not an appropriate intervention”.
Writing on his blog last week, Mr Briscoe added: “The difference of a week in the lag between infection and hospitalisation is important because if you believe the ONS numbers, you would already expect hospitalisations to be picking up rather more sharply than they are.
“Hospitalisations will need to be above (probably well above) the averages of recent months to justify lockdown.”
On Christmas Eve, Dr Harries said: “I think there’s a glimmer of Christmas hope in the findings that we published, but it definitely isn’t yet at the point where we could downgrade that serious threat.”
Scientific advisers have warned that even a small proportion of hospitalisations could overwhelm the health service if omicron infection rates are as high as feared.
A UKHSA spokesman said: “Individual responses to infection with Covid-19 vary widely according to a range of factors including age and health, and we continue to monitor the potential impact of the omicron variant as more data becomes available. Wider data on Covid-19 clearly indicates that there can be a substantial lag between infection and hospitalisation.”Noen koronadødsfall som ikke havner i koronastatistikken.
Hjelpetelefon gløder – vold i hjemmet øker i Tyskland
Etter pandemien rammet, gløder hjelpetelefonene i Tyskland. Organisasjonen Weisser Ring får 22.000 «rop om hjelp» i året nå. Før pandemien var det 4000 oppringninger.
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Fra imorgen krangler svenskene til innreise reglene, alle som ikke er boende i Sverige må ha med eget utferdat negativt test bevis. Da er vel øvrige innreisenærer ikke smittbærererSist redigert:UUtgatt24668
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Tragisk, vi venter nok også til det er for sent, når historiske tall et år tilbake i tid viser at vi burde ha gjort noe. Men, det heter jo etterpåklokskap.Noen koronadødsfall som ikke havner i koronastatistikken.
Hjelpetelefon gløder – vold i hjemmet øker i Tyskland
Etter pandemien rammet, gløder hjelpetelefonene i Tyskland. Organisasjonen Weisser Ring får 22.000 «rop om hjelp» i året nå. Før pandemien var det 4000 oppringninger.
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"Etterpåklokskap", ja.
Nakstad har nå, etter 2 år, sagt at "enkelte tiltak har vært unødvendige". Som skolestegningen.
Vi som sa det der og da, er selvsagt "gnålere" og "sytere". Dessuten er det jo "etterpåklokskap". Siden vi altså sa det umiddelbart. For, som kjent; det folk ikke selv klarer å se før lang tid etterpå, er "etterpåklokskap". Selv om det jo egentlig er "mangelfult utviklede sjelsevner og flokkmentalitet" hos disse som er den egentlige årsaken.
Vi hadde altså rett vedrørende skolestegningen. Vi hadde også rett hva gjaldt grenseåpningen uten kontroll sist sommer, vi har hatt rett angående psykisk helse, læring.
Vi kommer til å få rett angående nasjonale tiltak (behovet for de har som kjent vært påtrengende utenom Oslo og Viken), omikron, skjevhet ved vaksinefordeling internasjonalt, boosterdoser til friske mennesker (her har flere forskere allerede gått ut og sagt det er unødvendig for andre enn de eldste og risikogruppene).
Så har vi paradokset med at kjøpesentre er åpne- hvor tusenvis møtes, mens det er begrensninger på aktiviteter, sosiale treffpunkt, skoler, konserter. For på kjøpesentre smittes man som kjent ikke, mens flere enn 50 i Nidarosdomen fører til ukontrollert smitte og massedød.
Her blir det mye som senere skal unnskyldes med "etterpåklokskap".Sist redigert:
Julenettene er jo tida for troll og nisser....
Og leverandører av syt og gnål. Stappfulle av etterpåklokskap Men hva hjelper det - de blir jo ikke hørt...
Nytt år nye muligheter, ta booster dosen din…
Israeli study finds 2 Pfizer shots fail to neutralize Omicron, but booster effective
This data is ‘very worrisome,' says study head, but those who received a third dose of the vaccine have cause for ‘optimism'
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FHI: Tror ikke vi når booster-målet i julen
FHI mente at til sammen 700.000 vaksinedoser måtte settes på to uker for at landet skulle åpne mer opp - det ser det ikke ut til at skjer.
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– Vi har ikke fått kvalitetssikret dataene enda, men det ser absolutt ut til at det har blitt satt færre doser enn de 300.000 dosene som vi håpet skulle blitt satt, hvis man deler det over to uker. Det ligger an til et betydelig lavere tall.
Bukholm sier FHI ikke er helt sikre på hva som gjør at vaksineringen har gått tregere enn de hadde håpet på.
– Men vi tenker nok at folk har hatt mye å tenke på i løpet av julen og romjulen, så det kan være en årsak. Og så håper vi selvfølgelig kommunene har et tilbud som er tilpasset etterspørselen. Det er ting vi forsøker å kartlegge, sier han.
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Merkelig, etter å ha presentert smittetall opp mot 300.000 daglig, 15.000 innlagte i januar.
Det kan jo være så enkelt at mange ikke tenker å ta boosterdose....XX186841
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Kommunen her har stengt vaksineringen før jul og åpner igjen 4 Januar så det er rett og slett ikke mulig å vaksinere seg om man vil.De åpnet for en dag vaksinering i romjulen og de timene ble revet bort på kort tid.
Joda, det er jo tross alt jul. Og de ivrigste er jo oftest først ute, derfor blir "timene revet bort".
Men jeg har svært liten tro på at 3 dose når mer enn 65- 70 % andel av de over 45. Når det åpnes for de under, vil de unge neppe være de som stormer ned vaksinesentrene.
Boris Johnson’s rejection of lockdown could pay big dividends in 2022
The PM may well be vindicated in avoiding Europe’s march towards ever-harsher measures
When Professor Chris Whitty first presented his case for lockdown to the Cabinet, none of them could be expected to know what the effects would be. Now they do.
Many have their day jobs dominated by the wreckage of previous lockdowns: the mayhem of school exams, the surging drugs and alcohol deaths, the sheer cost to the economy and livelihoods. In recent weeks they’ve been asked to let the wrecking ball swing again, in hope that it knocks out a chunk of the omicron variant. But what else would be hit?
“Presumably, others are modelling the harms caused by restrictions, including economic harms,” Graham Medley, chairman of the Sage forecasters, said recently. But this is precisely the problem: even now, no one is. Not properly.
There is no economic or social equivalent of Sage offering parallel advice. The public health officials are still making their case in the same way, and just last week were pushing for more restrictions – and the sooner the better, they said. But the advice was rejected last week, and again today. There will be no more restrictions until at least the new year. Individually, ministers understand what’s at stake. Nadhim Zahawi, the Education Secretary, knows about the 25,500 pupils who have disappeared off school rolls since lockdown started. He thinks it will take two years to repair exams: another lockdown could make this three. Suella Braverman, the Attorney General, knows that lockdowns left a courtroom backlog so great that it now takes three years for a rapist to be brought to trial. It’s quite a shift: for these ministers, lockdown is no longer seen as a cautious measure, but a pretty extreme one.
Sage has also lost its monopoly on Covid analysis, now that independent academic modellers and financiers are joining the debate. The biggest question in the world markets today is whether omicron will overwhelm healthcare systems or not: if so, disaster looms and it’s time to sell shares; if not, it’s time to buy. So some of the finest minds in financial analysis have been repurposed to modelling pandemics, with research notes closely read and passed around by Cabinet members.
Rishi Sunak is perhaps the most economically literate Chancellor in modern times, a former financier who asked for a Bloomberg data terminal to be installed on his Treasury desk so he could do his own homework and not rely solely on whoever was briefing him. Sajid Javid was a vice-president of Chase Manhattan bank before entering politics; Jacob Rees-Mogg set up his own investment firm. Spotting trends in a sea of dodgy data was, for a while, what these three did for a living.
The analysis from JP Morgan is striking because its base case is one Sage did not present: a scenario where no more restrictions are needed and boosters save the day, leading to a political triumph for Boris Johnson. It envisages Britain pulling through without cause for another lockdown because boosters have already done enough to keep hospitalisations below those of the last peak. Its research note looks around Europe and struggles to see any other country so well placed to ride all this out.
JP Morgan’s case is fairly simple. The omicron surge has been concentrated amongst the young: and, as we know, risk lies with the over-60s. But an extraordinary 93 per cent of them have already been boosted, giving high protection from either catching omicron or getting seriously sick from it – the highest figure of any major country. This time last year, lockdown was used as a tool to buy time to vaccinate the at-risk age groups. Now, we enter the omicron wave with that work largely done.
Familien bestemte seg for å ikkje isolere koronasjuke barn i huset
Familien i Ålesund valde å leve som normalt då dottera blei sjuk. No er fire smitta. Rektor seier fleire gjer det same for å bli ferdig med smitten.
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Etter å ha hørt om foreldre som har ment at å isolere smittede barn fra resten av familien er lurt, er det jo greit å lese at det faktisk finnes oppegående, tenkende foreldre også.
Etter min oppfatning er det umennesklig å isolere barn som har kåråna. At myndighetene mener man skal gjøre dette viser bare hvor sykt samfunnet har blitt de siste to årene.
Familien bestemte seg for å ikkje isolere koronasjuke barn i huset
Familien i Ålesund valde å leve som normalt då dottera blei sjuk. No er fire smitta. Rektor seier fleire gjer det same for å bli ferdig med smitten.
www.nrk.no
Etter å ha hørt om foreldre som har ment at å isolere smittede barn fra resten av familien er lurt, er det jo greit å lese at det faktisk finnes oppegående, tenkende foreldre også.
Isolerer man sine barn fra resten av familien, bedriver man både barnemishandling òg psykisk tortur. Under alle andre omstendigheter, hadde barnevernet grepet inn. At myndighetene mener at dette er slik det skal være, er bare nok et bevis på at myndighetene styrer etter magefølelse og frykt. Barnas beste er det siste de tenker på. Det gjelder også foreldre som isolerer sine barn.
Man trenger faktisk ikke gjøre som myndighetene sier. Det er lov å tenke selv, enn så lenge.
Helseministeren tar skolebarn som gisler for voksne som ikke vil vaksinere seg mot korona
Helseminister Ingvild Kjerkol overprøver helsefaglige råd og stenger skolene av hensyn til voksne som ikke vil vaksinere seg. Det er uholdbart!
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Og galskapen fortsetter...
Ser man det, ja.
Jussprofessor Hans Fredrik Marthinussen mener Sheiken Bowling kanskje kan ha åpent
Fem ganger på fire dager har politiet rykket ut for å stenge bowlinghallen Sheiken Bowling i Haugesund. Jussprofessor Hans Fredrik Marthinussen mener politiet kan ha gjort en feil.
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Professoren peker på at bowling tross alt er idrett, at andre idrettshaller som svømmehaller kan være åpne, og at bowling er fritatt fra merverdiavgift på lik linje med annen idrettsvirksomhet.
I tillegg viser Solberg til at bowlingsselskapet bak Sheiken Bowling, Haugesund Bowling og Biljard AS, har næringskoden «93.110 Drift av idrettsanlegg» i Brønnøysundregistrene.
– Problematisk
– Dette gjør det problematisk å stenge bowlinghallen på den måten, med makt og uten klagemuligheter, sier Marthinussen.
I koronaforskriften, som ble oppdatert etter 15. desember, står det at lekeland, fornøyelsesparker, spillehaller og lignende skal holde stengt.
Det står ingenting om bowlinghaller.
– Hvis man ønsker å stenge bowlinghaller, så skriver man i forskriften at bowlinghaller må holde stengt. Det kan ikke være så vanskelig å liste opp hva slags type lokaler man krever at skal være stengt.
– Lettvint og lite grundig
Marthinussen minner om at det er snakk om noens levebrød.
– Det må man faktisk ta høyde for og gjøre jobben skikkelig. Under hele denne pandemien har man til stadighet sett at inngrep og reguleringer gjøres altfor lettvint og lite grundig. Man har et hastverk som ikke står i forhold til den ulempen og skaden som påføres folk som rammes av dette, sier han.
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Det er tydeligvis bare på kjøpesentre man ikke smittes, og politiet kan da fritt legge innehaveren av denne bowlinghallen i bakken - selv uten en lovlig forskrift.Recap: December 28, 2021
Well, well. Look at that. Another politician died from COVID. A tragedy, said the news. A terrible tragedy. Yes, a tragedy. He leaves beh...www.stonekettle.com
Ja, her må familien tenke sjæl.
Familien bestemte seg for å ikkje isolere koronasjuke barn i huset
Familien i Ålesund valde å leve som normalt då dottera blei sjuk. No er fire smitta. Rektor seier fleire gjer det same for å bli ferdig med smitten.
www.nrk.no
Etter å ha hørt om foreldre som har ment at å isolere smittede barn fra resten av familien er lurt, er det jo greit å lese at det faktisk finnes oppegående, tenkende foreldre også. -
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